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makkah 22-01-2001 02:07 AM

why mosy of u attack EGYPT
 
whenever i read a reply in many topics , i find i brutal attack at EGYPT. i really don't know why?!!!!!

wadood 22-01-2001 06:19 AM

Hi Shaikh Abu Al-Atfal, hi everybody
This is my first contribution and I hope that I will be able to share my ideas with you if I'm given the chance.
In this contribution, I wanted to answer the question about "why we attack Egypt" that is because your presedent is not welling to break the relations with damn Israel which he is suppose to do, and he is not prave enough to say anything that may upset his friends in Israel and America, I hvae doubt that he can do so.
I hope this is enough, and if not, please let me know so that I can give you more .
Best regards.
Wadood

makkah 23-01-2001 12:18 AM

i want u to be more fair WADOOD.is EGYPT the only arabic country which has relations with AMERICA & ISRAEL.i want u to tell me , from where do the planes which attack IRAQ take off?i think u know well that they take off from SAUDI ARABIA &KWAIT.which countries does the american army protects? which countries make huge weapones deals with AMERICA?can u tell me what did the other arabic countries did through INTIFADA? i think nothing but talking and talking.i don't tell u that i liked what they did, but it's not only EGYPT but all the arabic countries did the same thing "SILENCE" . i hope that u remember that EGYPT which u r talking about has entered many wars with ISRAEL ,and lost her youth and sucrificed alot .we want to do more , and we want to fight ISRAEL, but tell me will the other arabic countries will help us. i know very well that in any war we'll find ourselves alone. all the arabic countries are ready to fight , but only till the last egyptian solider.if we are real brothers we won't be so weak like this .many arabic countries are very rich , while many other countries are suffering from many economic problems and EGYPT is one of them. why do they leave us take loans from AMERICA?they leave us suffer from our problems alone,but when there's an arabic problem they want us to contribute. why?they remember us only in disasters.we want to fight ISRAEL, but not alone . do the arabic countries ready for a war?do u know that i've been reading some discussions through the net and the editors kept calling us PHAROAS , i don't know why?we are muslims and arabs.i felt that they were trying to say that we are different from them and we are not the same, while we are in a very hard time and we need to be one hand.

wadood 23-01-2001 08:52 AM

makkah
I didn't mean that Egypt is the only arabic country which has relations, but it is the most and to be fair, whatever you said is correct and we can not deny it
I don't know what we (arabs) are waiting for


makkah 23-01-2001 01:41 PM

WADOOD the arabic leaders are waiting for nothing because they only care about thier power not our wellfare.we the citizens must do something . at least asking for our freedom to talk and express our opinion

الشيخ أبو الأطفال 23-01-2001 03:40 PM

السلام عليكم.
كانا بودي مشاركتكما الحوار لكن للأسف لا أعرف الانجليزية...ألا يمكن ان يكون بالعربية ؟؟؟ وشكرا مسبقا
ساحاول لاستنجاد ببعض الأحبة المترجمين...فأين أنتم...؟؟؟او باحد مواقع الترجمة...

wadood 24-01-2001 09:55 AM

Makkah
I don't think we as citizens can do anything even if we talk day and night, I'm not trying to discourage you, but this is the fact.
What actually we can do is to keep talking till we find somebody who may listen to us and change the situations.

Finally, let's pray to find somebody, and wish you good luck.
Truely, yours

Wadood

makkah 24-01-2001 02:23 PM

i don't mean just talking because as u said nobody will listen or even let us talk.what i mean is a real refusal to what's happening around us. didn't u see on the T.V. the english prime minister , the people threw him with tomato becase they didn't accept the british policy in IRAQ. i don't mean that we throw our leaders with tomato!!!!!!!but i mean the real freedom they have to express thier opinions which we don't have completely.i really believe that if we defeat our fear , they will lose thier power

Hadia 26-01-2001 03:08 AM

أختي العزيزة مكة:
معك حق بقولك أن الشعب المصري ليس الوحيد الذي لم يقطع علاقاته مع إسرائيل وأمريكا.
أنا عن نفسي ام ألاحظ اي هجوم على على مصر خصوصا. ولكن إن كان كذلك فمعك حق لأن الفساد قد انتشر في جميع الدول العربية.
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ضيفة الخيمة السياسية:
هـــ ـــادية

makkah 26-01-2001 10:44 PM

sister HADIA,only few people on this site attacked EGYPT, but in other sites i read horrible things about EGYPT and egyptians, espically, at arabia.really whenever i visit another sites , i find that khayma is a wonderful one. participants don't insult each other like the other sites

das6 27-01-2001 07:32 AM

dear makkah

this is the fate of big brother ,

he must be weth big heart
regards

...etc 28-01-2001 09:09 AM

محد يا ابوي اتاااااااك ايجبت

هي اللي اتاكت نفسها بنفسها


الشيخ أبو الأطفال 28-01-2001 10:28 AM

السلام عليكم.
أهلا بضيفة السياسية هادية
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بنيتي السائلة جودي ...الخ كما ترين مصرون هم على استعمال الانجليزية...التي لا اعرف فيها شيئا....لهذا تركتهم مع هجوماتهم وانتظر نهايتها لأعرف القصة....

wadood 29-01-2001 06:22 AM

Makkah

We don't attack Egypt, we blame Egypt because it is in a high position and has big role, so we hope that it uses it's power and weight in our side rather than keep quite about the current situation and not only Egypt we blame, but all other countries which have power what-so-ever.

Please note that when we blame somebody, that means we like him, and please again don't take it so personal, we are still arabs wherever we are.

best regards

Wadood

makkah 30-01-2001 09:42 PM

SHIEKH ABO AL ATFAL, please use a translator to undserstand these words; MY KEYBOARD ISN'T ARABIC ENABLED
brother WADOOD , i agree with u in what u said, and i don't like what my government throughtout intifada.but this is our fate.we will just wait till ALLAH send the arabic nation a real muslim leader

قحطان 06-02-2001 10:37 PM

THIS IS SORT OF SILLY QUESTION....IF U MEAN IN THE GULF COUNTRIES ,,BECAUSE YOUR PEOPLE IN THE GULF COUNTRIES THEY JUST REPRESENTED THEIRE OWN COUNTRY IN A BAD WAY
SO DO NOT ASK THIS KIND OF STUPID QUESTION... GO ASK YOUR PEOPLE WHAT ARE THEY DOING IN OUR COUNTRIES .... SORRY BUT THEY ARE THIEVES

قحطان 06-02-2001 10:41 PM

THIS IS SORT OF SILLY QUESTION....IF U MEAN IN THE GULF COUNTRIES ,,BECAUSE YOUR PEOPLE IN THE GULF COUNTRIES THEY JUST REPRESENTED THEIRE OWN COUNTRY IN A BAD WAY
SO DO NOT ASK THIS KIND OF STUPID QUESTION... GO ASK YOUR PEOPLE WHAT ARE THEY DOING IN OUR COUNTRIES .... SORRY BUT THEY ARE THIEVES

قحطان 06-02-2001 10:48 PM

THIS IS SORT OF SILLY QUESTION....IF U MEAN IN THE GULF COUNTRIES ,,BECAUSE YOUR PEOPLE IN THE GULF COUNTRIES THEY JUST REPRESENTED THEIRE OWN COUNTRY IN A BAD WAY
SO DO NOT ASK THIS KIND OF STUPID QUESTION... GO ASK YOUR PEOPLE WHAT ARE THEY DOING IN OUR COUNTRIES .... SORRY BUT THEY ARE THIEVES

الشيخ أبو الأطفال 08-02-2001 04:35 PM

السلام عليكم.
اختاه مكه.بدون البحث عن مترجم فهمت الجملة من قبل واعرف ان جهازك ليس مجهزا للمفاتيح العربية/الكتابة بالعربية / ...للأسف ...
ربما يمكن استعمال مفاتيح بعض المواقع مثل www.al-islam.com www.naseej.com

الجنوبي 11-02-2001 01:05 AM

Salaam to all
What are these people fighting over? How could they discuss such an important issue if they could not write proper English.God...Their grammar is appallingly atracious and the structure is poor and what makes it even worse is the fact that they don't even have an argument. For God's sake stop..or go back to school and learn English and then start arguing. And by the way, it is The Arab world, and the Arab leaders,,,,, not the Arabic...Ha

makkah 11-02-2001 07:08 PM

brother KAHTAN , thank u for ur RESPECTFUL way of speech!!!!!!!!!!!i know that u know very well what i mean. i think that there's more polite way to express ur opinion.i think that u noticed very well how we talk to each other in these discussion; even if we don't like the other opinions, we talk in a good way. brother GANOBY , i really hope that u notice that we don't need an english class; all what we need is understanding each other, and i think that's not a problem if we write a good english or not . i really don't like ur ironic way; if u r an english teacher , forgive us for our IGNORANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

الجنوبي 11-02-2001 11:42 PM

Makkah wrote " all what we need is understanding each other, and i think that's not a problem if we write a good english or not"... Well, and how would I understand you if you write in a language that looks English but is surely not understandable. All I wanted to say to you and to the others who write in English is: Write in Arabic, and if your computer is not Arabic enabled, then go to one of the so many sites that have Arabic keyboard, and then write, cut and paste.Is that difficult? Not at all.This is an Arabic forum and we are at a time when it is of paramount importance to promote our language and be proud of it. But if you still want to write in English, then that is fine with me and with all of us -I guess- as far as it is proper and correct English. That was the whole point. My remark wasn't ironic but was truthful, and hey, wallah I am not a teacher of English and I don't want to be one. I am proud of my ARABIC, the language of the holly Quran and that is why I am asking you to write in Arabic. Finally, and by the way, it is "all we want", not "all what we want". salaam

makkah 12-02-2001 05:02 AM

GANOBY , i'm really bored of that useless argument. i think it's my business to write in the language i prefer, and i find it easier for me to write in english(by the way i didn't know before the way u told me about); and i think that my english isn't so bad that u can't understand me. thank u for ur remark(all we need), i think u r right. i hope that u stop treating me as if i'm in an english test. if u don't understand my english , don't read what i write ; u can discuss the other topics, and i think they r many because i don't participate alot

wadood 12-02-2001 05:20 AM

Good morning Janoubi
Good morning everybody

janoubi, this khaymah is for politics not for Engilsh language
People here can express their feeling in any language they like as long as we can understand it

I don't think (Al-khaymah Al-arabiah) is for Arabic writers only but for all arabs all aver the world, and if we,Arabic unabled, are not allowed to contribute or share our ideas, let me hear it from the resposible of the khaymah and I will stop writing, otherwise, let people say whatever they want

Khaymah's friend
Wadood


قحطان 12-02-2001 05:57 PM

HOW FUNNY , YOU ARE ASKING A STUPID THING I WILL TELL YOU WHY WE ATTACK EGYPT , THE FIRST THING THAT WE ARE NOT ATTACKING EGYPT , BUT YOUR PEOPLE , SORRY BUT YOUR PEOPLE GAVE THE COUNTRY BAD IMPRESSION , & BAD REPUTITION, THE EGYPTIAN ARE THIEVES IN THE GULF COUNTRIES THEY ASSUMED THE POEPLE IN THE GULF & THEY ARE THE SMART ONE & THIS
IS THE REASON FOR ATTACKING EGYPT & EGYPTIAN


الجنوبي 12-02-2001 10:49 PM

ياأخوان,أناأوشكت على الجنون

نقول لمكه و ودود هذا منتدى عربي,يقولوا عارفين...
نقول طيب شاركوا باللغه العربيه, قالوا ماعندنا وندو عربي

قلنا طيب,وتفضل المشرف بتزويدهم ببعض المواقع والتي يستطيعون من خلالها الكتابه بالعربي ثم النسخ والنقل لهذا الموقع لكي يتمكن أكبر عدد ممكن من الزوار من الاطلاع على الموضوع والمشاركه فيه.........ياسبحان الله.....
رجعوا وقالوا لانريد,سنستمر في الكتابه باللغه الأنجليزيه لأننا لانستطيع ان نعبر الا من خلالها.....قلنا ماشي الحال ولكن أكتبوا انجليزيه صحيحه لكي نتمكن من معرفة الموضوع وفهمه ثم المشاركه فيه........
رجعوا وأصروا على الكتابه بلغة انجليزيه ضعيفه جدا,أسلوبا وقواعدا......عقدة النقص المركب...لاحول ولاقوة الا بالله...


قحطان 13-02-2001 03:54 AM

الى جنوبي ،،،،، بالفعل انت على حق فيما تقول والآن إليك مشاركتي بالعربية ،
ان السؤال الذي طرحته مكة يعتبر من الاسئلة السخيفة والغير منطقية ، فلماذا تسألنا عن سبب هجوم الناس على مصر ،، من المفترض ان توجه هذالسؤال لأبناء بلدها او للمصريين عموماً ، فالمصريين يمثلون بلدهم في الخارج وخصوصاً في دول الخليج أسوء تمثيل ، مما يسئ بسمعة بلدهم بعد ذلك ، لهذا من الافضل ألا تسألي أسئلة غبية (آسف ) ، فأغلب المصريين يعتبرون انفسهم هم الاذكياء ونحن الحمقى المتخلفين ، ويا للأسف فهم في النهاية لصوص
في الواقع اعلم تماماً ان كلامي جارح ...... لكن هذه الحقيقة المره سواء رغبتي بها او لم ترغبي......

قحطان 13-02-2001 03:58 AM

الى جنوبي ،،،،، بالفعل انت على حق فيما تقول والآن إليك مشاركتي بالعربية ،
ان السؤال الذي طرحته مكة يعتبر من الاسئلة السخيفة والغير منطقية ، فلماذا تسألنا عن سبب هجوم الناس على مصر ،، من المفترض ان توجه هذالسؤال لأبناء بلدها او للمصريين عموماً ، فالمصريين يمثلون بلدهم في الخارج وخصوصاً في دول الخليج أسوء تمثيل ، مما يسئ بسمعة بلدهم بعد ذلك ، لهذا من الافضل ألا تسألي أسئلة غبية (آسف ) ، فأغلب المصريين يعتبرون انفسهم هم الاذكياء ونحن الحمقى المتخلفين ، ويا للأسف فهم في النهاية لصوص
في الواقع اعلم تماماً ان كلامي جارح ...... لكن هذه الحقيقة المره سواء رغبتي بها او لم ترغبي......

blue_ra3d 13-02-2001 05:30 AM

I hope all of you can just stop these childish games of demeaning other MUSLIM and ARAB people. I am an Egyptian living in the USA and I only carry in my heart love for any other Muslim Arab who come to the country, we are all supposed to be brothers and supposed to treat others with that level of understanding. I see their mistakes (which I will not repeat to insult you as you did to us) and I understand them but I still take any one a brother and a family. if you fail to see that then don't ever whine about the lost dignity of the Muslim ummahs. you're destroying it right now.

الجنوبي 13-02-2001 11:39 PM

blue_ra3d

Brother

I totally agree with your views and I think your argument is sound and valid. The Ummah has been plagued by these stupid nationalists who look at things through their narrow nationalistic minds. They don't pay attention to Islam, which is our true identity. Islam as you rightly advocated is the remedy to all of our problems.I don't care about where someone comes from, nor about someone's color, race or ethnic background.......What matters (to me that is) is if he or she is a Muslim. I identify with Muslims wherever they are, as much as I identify with my own fellow contrymen and women. These guys who started this subject were not aware of its negative implications. That is why I had to distract their attention by stampping down on their English . I wanted (with good intention though) to divert the course of their argument. This is not the time to discuss these thorny issues. We should (in fact we must) abridge our differences, put our hands together and fight our eternal enemy, Israel and Zionism. Finally, I thank you for your balanced, intellectual and intelligent comment. Please use Arabic if that is possible so that it becomes easy for other to read and participate

Ganooby, Saudi Arabia

الجنوبي 13-02-2001 11:53 PM

سلام أخي قحطان

أخي لقد جاوزت المدى وجرحت شعب من اعرق الشعوب العربيه الأسلاميه. أخي كلنا أخوان ولا غنا لنا عن مصر ولا غنى لمصر عنا.
أقول أنني أرفض كلامك عاليه جملة وتفصيلا وهذا الكلام لايعبر الا عنك......فنحن السعوديون نكن لأخوتنا المصريون كل حب واحترام

تحياتي للجميع وارجوا أغلاق هذا الموضوع والذي لاطائل من وراءه


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