"ÊÜæÈ_ÝÜíÜÜæ" :- ÈÜÇ ÇáÂåÜÜí, íÜÇ áÜåÜæá ÇáÜÝÜÇÌÜÚÜÉ ÇáÊÜí íÜÕÜÚÜÈ ÊÜÞÜÈÜáÜåÜÇ! ãÜÇåÜí ãÜÔÜÜÇÚÜÑß äÍÜæ åÜÐÇ ÇáãÜæÖÜæÚ ÓÜÜíÜÏí, æÈÇáÜÖÜÜÈÜØ áãÜÇÐÇ ÃäÜÊ ÊÜÊÜÍÜÜÏË ãÜÚÜäÜÇ ÍÜæá åÜÐÇ ÇáãÜæÖÜÜæÚ¿ åÜá ÃäÜÊ ãÜÊÜÃßÜÜÏ ãÜãÜÇ ÊÞÜÜæáÜå¿ "ãÜÕÜÜÏÑ ÃäÜÊÜá" :- (ÖÜÍÜß) ãÜÇ ÇááÜÐí íÌÜÈ ÚÜáí ÇáÃÌÜÜÇÈÜÉ ÚáíÜå ÃæáÇ¿ ÃäÜÇ áÜä ÃÌÜÜÑÄ ÚÜáì ÇáÃÏáÇÁ ÈåÜÐÇ ÇáäÜæÚ ãÜä ÇáÜÊÜÕÜÜÑíÜÍ Ãä áÜã ÃßÜÜä ãÜÊÜÃßÜÜÏ ááÜÛÜÇíÜÉ ÇäÜåÜÇ ÍÜÞÜíÜÞÜå. ÔÜÜÚÜæÑí åÜæ Ãä åÜÐÇ ÇáÜÚÜãÜá ãÜÎÜÜÒí ÌÜÜÏÇ. ÃäÜå ãÜËÜíÜÜÑ ááÃÔÜÜãÜÆÜÒÇÒ æÛÜíÜÜÑ ãÜÞÜÈÜæá æÃäÜÇ ãÜÚÜÇÑÕ ááÜÐí ÚÜãÜá ÈÜßÜá ÔÜÜãÜæáíÜÉ. åÜäÜÇß ÞÜæì ÏÇÎÜá ÍÜßÜÜæãÜÊÜÜäÜÇ ãÜÕÜÜÑÉ ÈÜÊÜÑÕÜÜÏ ÈÜÜÊÜÛÜíÜÜíÜÜÑ äÜÓÜÜíÜÌ ãÜÌÜÊÜãÜÚÜÜäÇ Çáì ÃÈÜÓÜÜØ ÇáãÜÓÜÜÊÜæíÜÇÊ. æåÜÐå ÈÜÚÜÖ ÃäÜæÇÚ ÇáÃÚÜãÜÇá ÇáÊÜí ÓÜÜæÝ íÜÞÜÜæãÜæä ÈÜåÜÇ æÚÜáì ÔÜÜÇßÜáÜÊÜåÜÇ áíÜÊÜÃßÜÏæÇ ( ÊÜÛÜíÜíÜÜÑÇÊ ÌÜÜÐÑíÜå Ýí ãÌÜÊÜÜãÜÚÜÜäÜÇ) ÊÍÜÜÏË. TOP_VIEW: God, what a horrifying thing to come to grips with! What is your feeling about this sir, and
exactly why are you even talking to us about this? Are you positive about what you're saying? INTEL SOURCE: (laughs) What should I answer first? I would never make this kind of statement without being fully certain it was factual. My own feeling is that it's completely sickening. It's repugnant and unacceptable and I'm completely opposed to what was done. But it's true and we all have to deal with it. There are forces within our government who are completely determined to change the structure of our society at the most basic level, and these are the kind of things they're going to be doing to make sure that (fundamental changes in our society) happens.
"ÊÜæÈ ÝÜíÜÜæ" :- ãÜÇ ÇááÜÐí íÜÍÜÜÏË Ýí ÇáÌÜíÜÜÔ Ýí ÇáÜæÞÜÊ ÇáÜÑÇåÜä ÊÌÜÇå ãÜÇ ÍÜÏË¿ åÜá ÇáßÜËÜíÜÑ ãÜä ÇáÜæÙÜÇ ÆÝ ÇáÚÜáíÜÇ Ýí ÇáÌÜíÜÜÔ íÜÚÜÑÝÜÜæä åÜÐÇ, æÇÐÇ ßÜÇäÜÜæÇ ßÜÐáÜß ãÜÇ åÜæ ãÜæÞÜÝÜåÜÜã¿ "ãÜÕÜÜÏÑ ÃäÜÊÜá" :- (ÛíÜÜÑ ãÝÜåÜÜæã). TOP_VIEW: What's going on in the military right now with regard to what's occurred? Do many military
higher-ups know this, and if so what's their position? INTEL SOURCE: (unintelligible
"ÊÜæÈ_ÝÜíÜÜæ" :- ÚÜÝÜÜæÇ¿ "ãÜÕÜÜÏÑ ÃäÜÊÜá" :- ÞÜáÜÊ ÇáÜÈÜÚÜÖ íÜÚÜÑÝÜæä æÇáÜÈÜÚÜÖ áÇ. ÇáÜÈÜÜÚÜÖ áÜä íÜÕÜÏÞ, ãËÜáÜåÜã ãËÜá ßÜËÜíÜÜÑ ãÜä ÇáãÜæÇØÜäÜíÜÜä áÜä íÜÕÜÏÞÜæÇ. ÈÇáÜÊÜÃßíÜÏ åäÜÇß ÎÜáÇÝÜÇÊ ßËÜíÜÑÉ ÊÌÜÑí ÇáÂä ÈÜíÜä ßÈÜÇÑ ÇáÌíÜÜÔ ÇááÜÐíÜä íÜÚÜÑÝÜæä ÇáÍÜÞÜíÜÞÜÉ Ýí ÇáÜæÞÜÊ ÇáÜÑÇåÜä. TOP_VIEW: Excuse me? INTEL SOURCE: I said some do know and some don't. Some wouldn't believe it, just like many citizens wouldn't believe it. There are certainly lots of conflict going on at the upper levels of the military right now between people aware of the true facts.
"ÊÜæÈ_ÝÜíÜÜæ" :- ãÜÇÐÇ ÚÜäÜß ÃäÜÊ¿ "ãÜÕÜÜÏÑ ÃäÜÊÜá" :- ÃäÜÇ ÃÚÜÊÜíÜÑ äÝÜÜÓí ÃãÜÑíÜÜßí ÞÜæãÜí ÇááÜÐí íÜÄãÜä ÈÜÇáÜÏÓÜÜÊæÑ ÈÜÞÜÜæÉ. ÃäÜäí ÓÜÜæÝ ÃÚÜãÜá ãÜÇ ÝÜí æÓÜÜÚí áÍãÜÇíÜÉ ÊÜáÜß ÇáãÜÈÜÜÇÏìÁ, æßÜÐáß ÂÎÜÜÑíÜÜä ßÜËÜÜÑ. TOP_VIEW: What about yourself? INTEL SOURCE: I consider myself to be a patriotic American who believes strongly in the Constitution. I'll do whatever is in my power to uphold and defend those principles, and so will many others.
"ÊÜæÈ_ÝÜíÜÜæ" :- ÍÜÓÜÜäÇ åÜÐÇ ãÜÇ ßÜäÜÊ ÃÑÛÜÈ ÇáÜæÕÜÜæá ÇáÜíÜå.ÇáÜÙÜÇåÜÑ Ãä ÇáÜæÇÚÜÒ ÇáÜÑÆÜíÜÜÓí áÜåÜÐå ÇáåÜãÜÌÜíÜÜÉ ÈÜåÜÐå ÇáÜÖÜÜÎÜÇãÜÉ åÜæ ÃÍÜÏÇË äÜÚÜæãÜå Ýí ÇáÜÈÜáÜÏ ááÍÜÏ ÇáÌÜÇÏ Ýí ÇáÍÜÑíÜÇÊ ÇáãÜÏäÜíÜÉ, ÈÍÜÌÜÜÉ ÍãÜÇíÜÊÜäÜÇ ãÜä ÇáåÜÌÜãÜÇÊ ÇáÃÑåÜÇÈíÜå. Ãä ÃÔÜÜÈÜå åÜÐÇ ÈÜãÜÇ ÝÜÚÜáÜå åÜÊÜÜáÜÑ ÚÜäÜÏãÜÇ ÍÜÑÞ "ÑíÜÔÜÜÊÇÎ" Ýí ÇáãÜÇäÜíÜÜÇ. "ãÜÕÜÜÏÑ ÃäÜÊÜá" :- åÜÐÇ ÊÜÔÜÜÈÜíÜÜå ÌÜíÜÜÏ.(ÛÜíÜÜÑ ãÝÜåÜæã)000 æÇÍÜÏ ãÜä ÇáÃÓÜÜÈÜÇÈ ÇáÜÑÆÜíÜÓÜÜíÜÉ áÜÚÜãÜáÜíÜÜÉ ÇáÜËÜÜáÇËÜÇÁ. åÜäÜÇß ÞÜÇÆÜãÜÉ ÃÎÜÜÑì áÜåÜÇ ÚÜáÇÞÜÉ ÈÜÇ áÜÓÜÜíÜØÜÑÉ ÚÜáì ÍÜÞÜÜæá ÇáäÜÝÜØ Ýí ÇáÜÔÜÑÞ ÇáÃæÓÜÜØ, æÃãÜæÑ ÃÎÜÑì áÜåÜÇ ÚÜÜÜáÇÞÜÉ ÈÜÐáß ÇáãÜæÖÜÜæÚ. TOP_VIEW: Well that's something I wanted to get to. The primary motivation for an atrocity of this magnitude would seem to be to soften up the country for some serious curtailment of civil liberties, in the name of protecting us from such "terrorist" attacks. I've likened it to Hitler's burning of the Reichstag in Germany. INTEL SOURCE: That's a good comparison.
(Unintelligible)... one of the main reasons the action was carried out Tuesday. There's also other agendas having to do with control of the Middle East oil fields, and things related to that (issue).
"ÊÜæÈ_ÝÜíÜÜæ" :- ÍÜÓÜÜäÇ, åÜá Ãä ÇáÜäÜÇÓ ãÜËÜáß ßíÜÝÜãÇ ßÜÇä ãÜÓÜÜÊÚÜÏíÜä á, Ãæ ÞÜÇÏÑíÜÜä Úáì ãÜÚÜÇÑÖÜÉ åÜÐå ÇáÞÜæì¿"ãÜÕÜÜÏÑ ÃäÜÊÜá" :- ÃÊÜÍÜÜÏË ÚÜä äÝÜÜÓÜÜí, ÃÞÜæá Ãä åÜäÜÇß ÇáßÜËÜíÜÜÑ ÃäÜÇ ÌÜÇåÜÒ áÜÚÜãÜáÜå, æÓÜÜÃÚÜãÜáÜå. ÇáÊÜÍÜÜÏË ãÜÚÜß åÜæ æÇÍÜÜÏ ãÜäÜåÜÇ. æåÜäÜÇß ÇáßÜËÜíÜÜÑ ãÜä ÃãÜËÜÜÇáí. TOP_VIEW: Well, are people such as yourself in any way prepared to, or able to, oppose these forces? INTEL SOURCE: Speaking for myself, I'd say there's a lot I'm prepared to do and will do. Speaking to you is one of those things. And there are many more like me.
"ÊÜæÈ_ÝÜíÜÜæ" :- ÇáÂä, ßÜíÜÝ íÜãÜßÜä ÊÜÈÜÜÑíÜÜÑ ãÜÇ ÍÜÏË ááÜÈÜäÜÊÜÞÜæä ÖÜãÜä åÜÐÇ ÇáÎÜÖÜÜã¿ "ãÜÕÜÜÏÑ ÃäÜÊÜá" :- ÃäÜÇ áÇ ÃÓÜÜÊÜØÜíÜÚ ãäÜÇÞÜÔÜÜÉ Ðáß Úáì ÇáÃØÜÜáÇÞ. TOP_VIEW: Now, how does the attack on the Pentagon figure into this whole thing? INTEL SOURCE: I can't discuss that at all.
"ÊÜæÈ_ÝÜíÜÜæ" :- åÜá ÊÜÓÜÜÊÜØíÜÊÚ Ðáß Ýí ÇáãÓÜÜÊÜÞÜÈÜá¿ "ãÜÕÜÜÏÑ ÃäÜÊÜá" :- ãÍÜÜÊãÜá. ÃÚÜÊÜÞÜÜÏ ÇäÜäí ÃÍÜÊÇÌ Çáì ÃÞÜÝÜÇá ÇáÃÊÜÕÜÜÇá ÈÜÓÜÜÑÚÜå. TOP_VIEW: Can you some time in the future? INTEL SOURCE: Maybe. I think I'll need to sign off here soon.
"ÊÜæÈ_ÝÜíÜÜæ" :- åÜá åÜäÜÇß ÔÜíÁ ÂÎÜÑ ÊÜÑíÜÜÏ Ãä ÊÜÞÜæáÜå ÈÇáÊÜÍÜÜÏíÜÜÏ, Ãí äÜÕÜÜíÜÍÜÜÉ Ãæ ÎÜáÇÝ Ðáß¿ "ãÜÕÜÜÏÑ ÃäÜÊÜá" :- ÃæÏ Ãä ÃÞÜæá Ãä ØÜÑíÜÞÜÉ ÍÜíÜÜÇÊÜäÜÇ ÊÜæÇÌÜå ÃÚÜÙÜã ÎÜØÜÑ Ýí ÊÜÇÑíÜÎÜäÜÇ, æÇáÜÚÜÏæ åÜæ ÈÜßÜá ÊÃßíÜÜÏ ãÜä ÇáÜÈÜÇØÜä. ÈÜßÜá ÊÃßíÜÜÏ ãÜä ÇáÜÈÜÇØÜä. TOP_VIEW: Is there anything else in particular you'd care to say, any advice or whatever? INTEL SOURCE: I'd say that our way of life is facing the biggest threat in our history, and the enemy is very much within. VERY MUCH WITHIN.
"ÊÜæÈ_ÝÜíÜÜæ" :- ÃÐ Ç æÇÞÜÜÚ ÇáÜãÜæÖÜæÚ, ãÜÇ ÍÜÕÜá íÜæã ÇáËÜáÇËÜÇÁ ßÜÇä ÚÜãÜá ãÜä ÇáÜÏÇÎÜá¿ "ãÜÕÜÜÏÑ ÃäÜÊÜá" :- ÈÇáÊÜÃßíÜÜÏ. ÚÜáì ØÜæá ÇáÎÜØ Çáì ÇáÃÓÜÜÝÜá æÇáì ÃÚÜáì ãÜÓÜÜÊÜæì ÃßÜíÜÑ ãÜãÜÇ ÞÜÏ íÜÊÜÎÜíÜáÜå ÇáßÜËÜíÜÜÑ ãÜäÜßÜã. Ãä åÜäÜÇß ÊÜÖÜÜÇÑÈ ÍÜÇÏ íÜÏæÑ ÍÜÇáÜíÜÇ ÏÇÎÜá ÍÜßÜæãÜÊÜäÜÇ ßÜãÜÇ ÐßÜÜÑÊ. TOP_VIEW: So it boils down to: what happened on Tuesday was an inside job? INTEL SOURCE: Absolutely. All the way down the line and to a much higher level than most of you could ever imagine. There's a very intense struggle going on within our government like I said.
"ÊÜæÈ_ÝÜíÜÜæ" :- ÃäÜå ÊÜÖÜÜÇÑÈ ßÜáÜäÜÇ ãÜÊÜÃËÜÑíÜä ÈÜå, ÓÜÜíÜÏí. "ãÜÕÜÜÏÑ ÃäÜÊÜá" :- åÜÐå ÇáÍÜÞÜíÜÜÞÜÉ. TOP_VIEW: It's a struggle we're all involved in, sir. INTEL SOURCE: That's quite true.
"ÊÜæÈ_ÝÜíÜÜæ" :- ÃáÃãÜÑ íÜÙÜåÜÑ áí ÈÜßÜá æÖÜæÍ Ãä ÃÏÇÑÉ ÈÜæÔ ãÜÊÜæÑØÜå ÈÜÚÜãÜÞ Ýí ÇáåÜÌÜæã, åÜá åÜÐÇ ÕÜÍÜíÜÜÍÜÇ¿ ãÜä ÇáÜæÇÖÜÍ ÃäÜåÜã íÜÑíÜÏæä ÊÜÝÜÚíÜá ÇáÊÜÛÜíÜÜíÜÑ ÇáÌÜÐÑí Ýí ÇáäÜÓÜíÌ ÇáÃÌÜÊÜãÜÇÚÜí ßÜãÜÇ ÐßÜÑÊ. "ãÜÕÜÜÏÑ ÃäÜÊÜá" :- ÃäÜå ßÜÐÇáÜß. ÚÜáì Ãì ÍÜÇá ÚÜáÜíÜäÜÇ ãÜä ÇáÃÝÜÖÜá Ãä äÎÜÊÜÕÜÜÑ åÜÐå ÇáãÜÞÜÇÈÜáÜå. TOP_VIEW: It seems very clear to me that the Bush administration was way involved in the attacks. Would that be correct? They obviously want to bring about the exact kind of fundamental social restructuring that you mentioned. INTEL SOURCE: It's a good bet. Right now, it's best we cut this short.
"ÊÜæÈ_ÝÜíÜÜæ" :- ÚÜãÜÜÊ ãÜÓÜÜÇÁ æÔÜÜÜßÜÑÇ ÌÜÜÒíÜÜáÇ áÊÜÍÜÜÏËÜÜß ãÜÚÜÜäÜÇ. TOP_VIEW: Good night and thank you very much for speaking with us.
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