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قديم 02-02-2001, 04:53 PM
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السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
اخي الشادي أتنمنى أن تكون ترجمتي جيدة وخاليه من الأخطاء وعلى من يجد فيها خط أن يقوم بتصحيحة وأنا شاكره له .
Terrorists
for 50 years terroist took our land,and broke up our people into peaces in the far lands.
for 50 years terroristare still killing our children who faced thier deadlly wepoen with thier chest
for 50 years the terroriststill refuse the orders of the scurity concel and they egnore human rates
for 50 years we are scremingso if you know that you can help us with one word (yes) are you going to say it know
أرجو المعذره إذا كنت أخطأت سامحوني
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قديم 02-02-2001, 05:08 PM
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brother Omar Assalamu Alaikum , sorry for being late again here is my translations, i hope i helped..

For fifty years..Terrorists have occupied our land, our country and scattered our nation in unknown destinations.

2-For fifty years, those terrorists are killing our armless children. Those children who are facing the weapons, heavy artillery with bare chests and childhood despair.

3-For fifty years the terrorists are refusing the United Nations resolutions and violate even the basic human rights.

4-Since fifty years..we have been screaming for help, hence if you are aware of us now one word of approval to help us!!one word of Yes to end our misery is what we need!! Are you going to say it now??
Waiting here...
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قديم 02-02-2001, 05:57 PM
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I think this is important:

This letter was sent to Debbie Ducro, an American-Jewish
>journalist
> > > > with the
> > > > Kansas City Jewish Chronical. She published this letter, and was
> > > > fired the next
> > > > day for publishing it.
> > > >
> > > > Quest for Justice", By Judith Stone
> > > >
> > > > I am a Jew. I was a participant in the Rally for the Right of
> > > > Return to
> > > > Palestine. It was the right thing to do.
> > > >
> > > > I've heard about the European holocaust against the Jews since I
> > > > was a small
> > > > child. I've visited the memorials in Washington, DC and Jerusalem
> > > > dedicated to
> > > > Jewish lives lost and I've cried at the recognition to what level
> > > > of atrocity
> > > > mankind is capable of sinking.
> > > >
> > > > Where are the Jews of conscience? No righteous malice can be held
> > > > against the
> > > > survivors of Hitler's holocaust. These fragments of humanity were
> > > > in no
> > > > position to make choices beyond that of personal survival. We must
> > > > not forget
> > > > that being a survivor or a co-religionist of the victims of the
> > > > European
> > > > Holocaust does not grant dispensation from abiding by the rules of
> > > > humanity.
> > > >
> > > > "Never again" as a motto, rings hollow when it means "never again
> > > > to us alone."
> > > > My generation was raised being led to believe that the biblical
> > > > land was a vast
> > > > desert inhabited by a handful of impoverished Palestinians living
> > > > with their
> > > > camels and eking out a living in the sand. The arrival of the Jews
> > > > was touted
> > > > as a tremendous benefit to these desert dwellers. Golda Mier even
> > > > assured us
> > > > that there "is no Palestinian problem."
> > > >
> > > > We know now this picture wasn't as it was painted. Palestine was a
> > > > land filed
> > > > with people who called it home. There were thriving towns and
> > > > villages, schools
> > > > and hospitals. There were Jews, Christians and Muslims. In fact,
> > > > prior to the
> > > > occupation, Jews represented a mere 7 percent of the
> > > > population and owned 3 percent of the land.
> > > >
> > > > Taking the blinders off for a moment, I see a second atrocity
> > > > perpetuated by
> > > > the very people who should be exquisitely sensitive to the
> > > > suffering of others.
> > > > These people knew what it felt like to be ordered out of your home
> > > > at gun point
> > > > and forced to march into the night to unknown destinations or face
> > > > execution on
> > > > the spot. The people who displaced the Palestinians knew first
>hand
> > > > what it
> > > > means to watch your home in lames, to surrender everything dear to
> > > > your heart
> > > > at a moment's notice. Bulldozers leveled
> > > > hundreds of villages, along with the remains of the village
> > > > inhabitants, the
> > > > old and the young. This was nothing new to the world.
> > > >
> > > > Poland is a vast graveyard of the Jews of Europe. Israel is the
> > > > final resting
> > > > place of the massacred Palestinian people. A short distance from
> > > > the memorial
> > > > to the Jewish children lost to the holocaust in Europe there is a
> > > > leveled
> > > > parking lot. Under this parking lot is what's left of a once
> > > > flourishing
> > > > village and the bodies of men, women and children whose only crime
> > > > was taking
> > > > up needed space and not leaving graciously. This particular burial
> > > > marker
> > > > reads: "Public Parking".
> > > >
> > > > I've talked with Palestinians. I have yet to meet a Palestinian
>who
> > > > hasn't lost
> > > > a member of their family to the Israeli Shoah, nor a Palestinian
> > > > who cannot
> > > > name a relative or friend languishing under inhumane conditions in
> > > > an Israeli
> > > > prison. Time and time again, Israel is cited for human rights
> > > > violations to no
> > > > avail. On a recent trip to Israel, I visited the refugee camps
> > > > inhabited by a
> > > > people who have waited 52 years in these 'temporary' camps to go
> > > > home. Every
> > > > Palestinian grandparent can tell you the name of their village,
> > > > their street,
> > > > and where the olive trees were planted. Their grandchildren may
> > > > never have been
> > > > home, but they can tell you where their great-grandfather lies
> > > > buried and where
> > > > the village well stood. The press
> > > > has fostered the portrait of the Palestinian terrorist. But, the
> > > > victims who
> > > > rose up against human indignity in the Warsaw Ghetto are called
> > > > heroes. Those
> > > > who lost their lives are called martyrs. The Palestinian who
>tosses
> > > > a rock in
> > > > desperation is a terrorist.
> > > >
> > > > Two years ago I drove through Palestine and watched intricate
> > > > sprinkler
> > > > systems watering lush green lawns of Zionist settlers in their new
> > > > condominium
> > > > complexes, surrounded by armed guards and barbed wire in the midst
> > > > of a
> > > > Palestinian community where there was not adequate water to drink
> > > > and the
> > > > surrounding fields were sandy and dry. University professor Moshe
> > > > Zimmerman
> > > > reported in the Jerusalem Post (April 30, 1995), "The [Jewish]
> > > > children of
> > > > Hebron are just like Hitler's youth."
> > > >
> > > > We Jews are suing for restitution, lost wages, compensation for
> > > > homes, land,
> > > > slave labor and back wages in Europe. Am I a traitor of a Jew for
> > > > supporting
> > > > the right of return of the Palestinian refugees to their
>birthplace
> > > > and
> > > > compensation for what was taken that cannot be returned?
> > > >
> > > > The Jewish dead cannot be brought back to life and neither can the
> > > > Palestinian
> > > > massacred be resurrected. David Ben Gurion said, "Let us not
>ignore
> > > > the truth
> > > > among ourselves...politically, we are the aggressors and
> > > > they defend themselves...The country is theirs, because they
> > > > inhabit it,
> > > > whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we
> > > > want to take
> > > > away from them their country..."
> > > >
> > > > Palestine is a land that has been occupied and emptied of its
> > > > people. It's
> > > > cultural and physical landmarks have been obliterated and replaced
> > > > by tidy
> > > > Hebrew signs. The history of a people was the first thing
> > > > eradicated by the
> > > > occupiers. The history of the indigenous people (only 52 years
>old)
> > > > has been
> > > > all but eradicated as though they never existed. And all this has
> > > > been hailed
> > > > by the world as a miraculous act of G-d. We must recognize that
> > > > Israel's
> > > > existence is not even a question of legality so much as it is an
> > > > illegal fait
> > > > accompli realized through the use of force while supported by the
> > > > Western
> > > > powers. The UN missions directed at Israel in attempting to
>correct
> > > > its
> > > > violations of have thus far been futile.
> > > >
> > > > In Hertzl's "The Jewish State," the father of Zionism said, "...We
> > > > must
> > > > investigate and take possession of the new Jewish country by means
> > > > of every
> > > > modern expedient." I guess I agree with Ehud Barak (3 June 1998)
> > > > when he said,
> > > > "If I were a Palestinian, I'd also join a terror group." I'd go a
> > > > step further
> > > > perhaps. Rather than throwing little stones in desperation, I'd
> > > > hurtle a
> > > > boulder.
> > > >
> > > > Hopefully, somewhere deep inside, every Jew of conscience knows
> > > > that this was
> > > > no war; that this was not G-d's restitution of the holy land to
> > > > it's rightful
> > > > owners. We know that a human atrocity was and continues to be
> > > > perpetuated
> > > > against an innocent people who couldn't come up with the arms and
> > > > money to
> > > > defend themselves against the western powers bent upon their
>demise
> > > > as a
> > > > people.
> > > >
> > > > We cannot continue to say, "But what were we to do?" Zionism is
>not
> > > > synonymous
> > > > with Judaism. I wholly support the rally of the right of return of
> > > > the
> > > > Palestinian people.
>
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قديم 02-02-2001, 09:27 PM
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شكر كبير لكل من شاركنا العمل هنا ومن دون اللجوء الى تسميتهم واحدا واحدا
وقبل ان اصل معكم الى ختام اعتمادنا للنصوص بانتظار لينكس المرجع المعتمد في هذا احب ان اوجز ترجمة اخر مداخلة للاخت نور - طبعا بعد ان اقول لها وعليك السلام يا نور -
ومفادها ان احدى الصحافيات الاميركيات وهي يهودية قد وضعت هذا التقرير الذي أدى الى طردها من وظيفتها في اليوم التالي لنشره تماما واسمها "جوديث"
وموجز التقرير الموضوع يفيد ان هذه الصحافية تأثرت بما اختزنته من معلومات حول المجازر التي ارتكبت تاريخيا بحق اليهود لا سيما مجازر النازية المزعومة وكيف انها كانت من اللواتي يدعون الى استرجاع فلسطين وانها ظلت على هذا مدة طويلة من الزمن وصولا الى اكتشافها للحقيقة المجردة في كون فلسطين هي وطن الشعب الفلسطيني وان اليهود كانوا لا يشكلون الا نسبة 7 في المائة من السكان ويملكون نسبة 3 في المائة من الارض الوطنية الفلسطينية الى ما هنالك من الامور والثوابت التي تؤكد فلسطين وطنا لاهلها العرب وكيف ان ثمة مفارقات (مزعومة) بين اليهودية والصهيونية وانهما مختلفتان جوهرا ومضمونا حيث ان اليهودية بزعمها لا تدعو الى ما فعلته الصهيونية من اضطهاد الشعب الفلسطيني وان ما ارتكبه الصهاينة بحق فلسطين وشعبها هو اكبر مما فعلته النازية باليهود واخبرت في تقريرها انها تملك ارضا في فلسطين اكتشفت بعد مدة ان تحته كانت تعيش قرية فلسطينية وان تراب هذا الموقف يحتوي على الاف الجثث لاطفال ونساء ورجال فلسطين الذين أبوا ان يتركوا ارضهم ..... الى ان وصلت اخيرا الى استنتاجها ان الوطن الفلسطيني احق به اهله وانه ان الاوان لكي يعود اللاجئون في مخيمات مؤقتة استمرت وتستمر اقامتهم فيها منذ 52 سنة....الخ

تعقيبي يا اختنا نور على هذه المداخلة هي القول انها تستحق نداء منفصلا في الحقيقة سنحتفظ به هنا في حوار الخيمة العربية للعملية رقم 2 أو ربما رقم 3 حيث ان لدينا الكثير من هذه المستندات والوثائق في جعبة الحق

والى مزيد من التواصل


--------------------------------- الشادي


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قديم 02-02-2001, 09:30 PM
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أفندية وخانمات :
ماشاء الله ماهذا الذي اراه حقيقة . يعجز اللسان عن الوصف وطبعا مشكورة جهودكم جميعا .
ولنبدأ على بركة الله :
بسمة امل خانم :
الترجمة الى الفرنسي رائعة ولم أجد ولا حتى خطأ املائي واحد يعني هو في كلمات لازم تنحط محل كلمات تانية بس تعرفي على العموم رائعة بارك الله فيك .

دلوعتي خانم : (ان شاء الله يكون الاسم صح )
محاولة اكتر من رائعة بس في شوية اخطاء املائية يعني في كم كلمة في حرف ولا اتنين ناقصين منهم ( بتعرفي يمكن سقط سهوا ) على العموم بارك الله فيك .

نور خانم :
الحقيقة مابعرف شو بدي اقول ( خيبت ظني ) يعني معقول ما الاقي ولا غلط املائي واحد والله مشكلة ( عم بمزح ) طبعا مافي ولا اي خطأ املائي ومشكورة على جهودك ( وبعد الفحص وجدت انو انتي حاطة كلمتين بدال كلمة ) فعمر أفندي ماكان عم بيحكي عن الامم المتحدة ( 3 ) كان عم بيحكي على مجلس الامن security Council مشان هيك .

سيد عمر أفندي بالنسبة للفرنسي اعتمدت ترجمة بسمة امل خانم .
ولانكليزي اعتمدت ترجمة نور خانم بس مع تبديل بدال الامم المتحدة بمجلس الامن يعني

ٍٍٍٍ Security Council بدال United Nations فقط .

السيد قمشطيط أفندي طبعا مش معقول انساك باركك الله والله يكتر خيرك .

تؤبروني


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قديم 04-02-2001, 10:52 AM
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essalem alaikum
inaha mouhawala abra site litarjama
en francais
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Pendant cinquante ans.. Les terroristes ont occupé notre terre, notre pays et ont dispersé notre nation dans des destinations inconnues. 2 - pendant cinquante ans, ces terroristes tuent nos enfants sans armes. Ces enfants qui font face aux armes, l'artillerie lourde avec leur(poitrines) nus et le désespoir d'enfance. 3 - pendant cinquante ans les terroristes refusent les résolutions de Nations unies et violent même les droits fondamentaux de l'homme. 4 - depuis cinquante ans .. nous avons crié pour l'aide, de là si vous êtes conscients de nous maintenant un mot d'approbation de nous aider!! Un mot de-Oui- pour finir notre misère est de quoi nous avons besoin!! Allez-vous le dire maintenant ? ? Attente ici...
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قديم 05-02-2001, 04:58 PM
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Omar and lynx..I hope you are all doing fine..
I noticed that I had a few more mistakes than the one lynx mentioned. I was in a hurry last time and i did the translation right when I saw the text, forgive me. I am even surprised that I don't have any spelling mistakes..

please accept the few changes i made below:

1-For fifty years,terrorists have occupied our land, our country and scattered our nation in unknown destinations.

2- Fifty years have passed and those terrorists still continue to kill our armless children. Those children are facing the weapons, heavy artillery with bare chests and childhood despair.

3-For fifty years, those same terrorists are refusing the Security Council resolutions, and violating even the basic human rights.

4-,Since fifty years, we have been screaming for help. Hence if you are aware of us now, what we need is one word of approval would help us!!one word-Yes- to end our misery !! Are you going to say it now??
Waiting here...
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قديم 11-02-2001, 10:21 AM
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essalem alaikum
ila mata ????...
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قديم 21-02-2001, 04:31 PM
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ثمة من يعمل الان على المضي قدما في الموضوع فلندعو له

----------------------------- الشادي


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قديم 21-02-2001, 05:33 PM
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شدني هذا الموضوع كثيرا
و لكم ترجمتي
امهلوني بعض الوقت سآتيكم ان شاء الله
بترجمة فرنسية لا غبار ليها
و ان شاء الله سأعرض التراجم كلها على من يجيد
اللغة الانغليزية لنختار افضلها

Terrorists:

Fifty Years ago they invaded our nation, displacing our People all around the world

Since then they have been murdering our bare-chest children with horrible destruction machineries

For fifty years the Terrorists have been ignoring the Security Counsel Decisions, and Human Rights

For fifty years we have been suffering, Are you willing to helps us if not only buy one world “YES”, WE ARE WAITING


 


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